Trevor Jones — Witch & Co-Owner of Britain's Most Famous Witchcraft ShopThis past August, Drew traveled to the UK to visit places like Stonehenge, Iona, Holy Island and Glastonbury – the Mecca of Paganism. During his trip he sat down and had dinner with the owner of Britain’s most famous witchcraft shops and one of Britain's most notorious witches, Trevor Jones. Trevor joins us today to provide a firsthand explanation of what witchcraft is, and isn't.
Ivan McBeth — Founder Of The Megalithic Order of Druids & The Sacred Space School Of Shamanic StudiesIvan McBeth is a Druid in the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids. He is a Shamanic Healer and a Reiki Master, and has been a Vipassana Meditator for twenty-five years. He is a founder member of the Oak Dragon Project, where he learned his skills from the ground up, eventually becoming facilitator and workshop leader. He is a teacher for the Isle of Avalon Foundation, the Mid-Atlantic School of Geomancy, the Geomancy Group, and was the principal teacher for the Earth Healing School based in Nottingham, UK. He spent many years as a world traveler, spending large amounts of time in the Sinai, Egypt, America, India, Australia and South Africa. He practices spiritual techniques from many different cultures including Druid, Native American, Toltec, Buddhist and Hindu.
Mr. Bennett — Singer, Poet, Punk and Lyrical MutineerMr Bennett has spent the better part of his half century wandering and performing. Never a fan of change for the sake of it, he continues to do what he has always done, “I write things, then I sing it or say it, that’s all I do”. Though a glimpse through his travels and tales reveals living in more than a few countries and working more than “57” jobs at last count. So he has certainly kept himself busy on and off the stage. Bennett spent 18 years in the UK but recently returned to his hometown. With Leonard Cohen, Flannery O’Connor and Mississippi John Hurt as influences, Bennett has supported acts like The Fall, Ron Sexsmith, Jonathan Richman and garnered comparisons to other lyrical laureates like Bob Dylan, Lou Reed and William S. Burroughs. He’s played in a lingerie shop and The London Palladium. Camden Town and an Alabama house party for Satanists. When he wasn’t performing he was fueling busses, test driving cars, selling cheese, being a butcher, a barista, barman, and a roadie for several rock bands including Bloc Party … “they were great, Wembley Stadium was a big show but I met Eddie Izzard in the loo and that was better”.
Richard Crouse — Canada's Premier Film Critic, Author of Raising Hell: Ken Russell & The Unmaking Of The DevilsRichard Crouse is the regular film critic for CTV's Canada AM and the 24 hour news source CTV’s News Channel. In 2011 he hosted In Short, a series of eight hour long show showcasing BravoFact's best short films. He was the host of Reel to Real, Canada’s longest running television show about movies, from 1998 to 2008 and is a frequent guest on many national Canadian radio and television shows. His syndicated Saturday afternoon radio show, Entertainment Extra, originated on News Talk 1010 in Toronto. He is also the author of six books on pop culture history including Who Wrote the Book of Love, the best-selling The 100 Best Movies You’ve Never Seen, its sequel The Son of the 100 Best Movies You’ve Never Seen and the newly released, Raising Hell: Ken Russell and the Unmaking of The Devils. He also writes two weekly columns for Metro newspaper.
What the Hell?Joining us to discuss whether or not there really is a Hell is:
Frank Schaeffer - New York Times Best Selling Author, Recovering Evangelical Fundamentalist
His books include Crazy for God: How I Grew Up as One of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right, and Lived to Take All (or Almost All) of It Back. Frank is a survivor of both polio and an evangelical/fundamentalist childhood, an acclaimed novelist of 4 novels including Portofino, who overcame severe dyslexia, a home-schooled and self-taught documentary movie director, a feature film director and producer of four low budget Hollywood features Frank has described as "pretty terrible."
Jerry L. Walls - Professor of Philosophy, Noted Author on Hell
With degrees from Princeton Theological Seminary, Yale Divinity School and a PhD in Philosophy from the University of Notre Dame, Jerry Walls has just finished his latest book Purgatory: The Logic of Total Transformation. This volume is the third in a trilogy of books on the afterlife, the first two of which are Hell: The Logic of Damnation and Heaven: The Logic of Eternal Joy. In addition to this trilogy, he has written some two dozen articles and reviews on hell and the afterlife.
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This week on The Counsel Of Many: Since it's our Halloween Special, Drew wants to take the COM this week and ask if people believe in a literal Hell where God will send people to be eternally tormented – or not. AND, if you don't believe in a literal place of eternal torment, does that mean you can't be a Christian?
Over the last few weeks I've watched www.Hellboundthemovie.com a few times and I'm finding myself conflicted:
Screenwriter Robert McKee (atheist) says in the movie, “If I believed in God again, I would have to believe in Hell. Because if damnation isn't eternal, that leads to junky logic. Because we'll all say, I'll take care of things tomorrow. But Hell eliminates tomorrow. The notion that there is no Hell is simply a wussy effort by certain people (Rob Bell) to make God a nice guy, because they can't deal with the dichotomy that God is both a protector, lover AND a punisher. 'Everyone goes to heaven' is no way to run a society. If there's no real consequences then choice has no meaning. And if choice has no meaning then life has no meaning. By eliminating hell, these people are sucking the meaning out of life.”
Mark Driscoll pastor of Seattle's Mars Hill Church says that you're not a Christian if you don't believe in a literal Hell, where people are either condemned and punished for eternity or possibly, after a certain period of time, annihilated.
There seems to be an abundance of scriptural references leading us to the possible conclusion that Hell is not actually a literal place. As well, doesn't the New Testament covenant/theology (post crucifixion) reveal that God IS Love and that NOTHING can separate us from His love? (“...neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 8) As Sharon Baker states in the movie, “What brings more Glory to God? Two thirds of the world's population suffering in eternal punishment forever and ever OR the power of God, through Jesus Christ, working to love, to forgive, to reconcile, and to restore relationships of all people, for all time, no matter how wicked, not only to God, but to each other? Which is a more powerful God and which is more just?”
So I'm not sure what to think – is there a literal place of eternal torment called Hell? And If I don't think there's adequate reasons to believe that the Bible teaches such a concept, does that automatically disqualify me as a possible Christ follower?
(www.hellboundthemovie.com/theatre-locations/ will open on OCTOBER 26 in Toronto at the Cineplex Odeon Yonge & Dundas; in Oakville at the Cineplex Odeon Winston Churchill; and in Montreal at the Cineplex Odeon Forum. Filmmaker Kevin Miller will be in attendance for a Q & A after the following screenings: Toronto: Friday, Oct.26 at 7:30 PM – Cineplex Yonge & Dundas Oakville: Saturday, Oct. 27 at 7:00 PM at Cineplex Odeon Winston Churchill. The film is currently playing throughout the States as well as in Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Saskatoon and Regina theaters.)
God & StuffJoin Drew & Tim The Tool as they catch up on current events and the week's happenings in the world of Religion & Faith & Cults – Oh My! Religion & Faith & Cults - Oh my!
Today's God & Stuff guest: Kevin Eckstrom - Editor-in-Chief of Religion News Service